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Info-ParaNet Newsletters Volume I Number 334
Saturday, December 1st 1990
Today's Topics:
Re: ED WALTERS VIDEO
Re: ED WALTERS VIDEO
the Meier sightings
Al Seckel
Re: ED WALTERS VIDEO
63-foot circle in dead corn in Illinois
Online UFO database
Are we becoming more respectable?
Re: Al Seckel
Re: Al Seckel
Re: New crop circle idea?
Online Ufo Database
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From: Steve.Rose@f134.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Rose)
Subject: Re: ED WALTERS VIDEO
Date: 25 Nov 90 16:48:33 GMT
> I have two video 8 units and I though the resolution was
> supposed to be 400 lines. I'll have to read again. One is
> that tiny hand held unit about the size of an 8mm movie
Well...you should look. It has to say *Hi-Band* or "Hi-8" to have any chance
of approaching 400 lines. If it is the more common 8mm format...you are
limited to 230 lines or less. That is not to say you will take poor quality
footage...just less picture resolution than you could be taking. Happy
(video) shooting of those greys!
--
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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Re: ED WALTERS VIDEO
Date: 25 Nov 90 19:35:00 GMT
> I have two video 8 units and I though the resolution was
> supposed to be 400 lines.
Regular 8mm runs about 240 lines (more or less), about the same as
VHS. Hi8 is about 400 lines.
> So what exactally is the problem you find in Ed's video as to
> noise in the pictures, and lighting? I seem to be missing the
> point somewhere.
Shoot a tape in very dim light. Maybe tape an airplane in the night
sky. You should see some 'graininess' or 'snow' as compared to a tape
shot in bright sun. That's the noise we're talking about. The problem
is that Ed's video doesn't have much, and it should if it were shot as
described.
jbh
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From: JBB@watson.acc.virginia.edu
Subject: the Meier sightings
Date: 27 Nov 90 20:39:39 GMT
Can someone bring me up to date on the UFO sightings of Eduard Meier as
reported in Kinder's 1987 book 'Light Years: An Investigation into the
Extraterrestrial Experiences of Eduard Meier'? Specifically, what's the
current view? Have these sightings (and the UFO photographs appearing in
Kinder's book) been discredited, validated, or what? Curious folks want
to know! Thanks in advance for your response.
Joe Burch
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Al Seckel
Date: 27 Nov 90 15:35:00 GMT
Does anyone know the full story on Al Seckel's downfall? All I know is that he
has been accused of falsifying his educational background. I DON'T know if the
accusation has been confirmed...I don't even know what educational background
he claimed for himself.
Why do so many in this field feel compelled to aggrandize their credentials?
Willy Smith, William Spaulding, Frank Stranges...A few years ago I was looking
for experts in various fields to come online as topic moderators. One guy who
applied for the Evolution/Creation slot claimed 4 doctorates. Naturally I
checked him out, and sure enough, one college he listed didn't even exist, the
others had never heard of him.
Myself, I'm rather proud of how far I've come virtually without ANY college
(although I deeply regret not getting a degree). If people ask, I make no
bones about it, I am not highly educated, I don't have letters after my name.
I don't think anyone's stopped listening to me because of it (they may have
stopped for other reasons, though).
Just curious, if anyone has further _confirmed_ information on the Al Seckel
incident, please post it. I know Al slightly, he seemed like a pretty
straightforward dude to me. What's happening to these skeptics, they seem to
be having their share of scandals - Gauquelin, Dennett, Randi, and now this...
tsk tsk, most unbecoming...
Jim
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: ED WALTERS VIDEO
Date: 26 Nov 90 17:56:47 GMT
Thanks for the info from both of you. I will look at some of my dark videos
which I already have since I am constantly shooting when it says it should
not be producing a picture. (like in chambered tombs or indoors by common
lamp lighting)
I can bet mine is 230 lines since the camera is a couple of years old and
not one of the newer ones. I guess I was confusing the new camers specs which
a guy at the shop mentioned when he was telling me why I want to shoot V8 and
dub to VHS or Beta, because the V8 had better resolution for the master
videos.
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From: rutgers!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms (James Shaffer Jr.)
Subject: 63-foot circle in dead corn in Illinois
Date: 29 Nov 90 08:14:48 GMT
Yesterday (11/27) I saw a short spot on the local ABC station about a
crop circle discovered in Moline, Illinois. The circle was 63 feet in
diameter and was in a cornfield. The farmer was quoted as saying he
thought it was done by 'flying saucers,' but the reporter mentioned that
other people (unspecified) thought it was a hoax. Nothing was said to
indicate that either opinion was more than a 'gut reaction.' I couldn't
tell from the pictures, which were all ground-based, whether the corn was
flattened in a spiral or circularly. The thing I found interesting was
that it appeared to be at least partially broken. Could this be
attributable to it being dead and dried (I'd like to see *that* softened,
bent, and hardened!) or is this an indication of a hoax? Also, does anyone
know if this is the first one to occur in corn? I can't remember
ever seeing any pictures anywhere that looked like corn, and I would be
quite shocked to see corn laid down without damage as the wheat always
appears to be, even if it were alive.
--
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quote : ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION: WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL
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From: Jerry.Woody@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (Jerry Woody)
Subject: Online UFO database
Date: 29 Nov 90 00:24:00 GMT
I'm in the process of setting up an online database consisting of the
following UFO data:
Animal Mutilations
UFO Sightings
ET crash / retrieval
I already have the mutilation and crash online in the remote database and
will be adding the UFO sightings to it soon. Anyone have data in the dbase
III format (which the remote database uses) and would like to share it with
others please let me know.
Thank you..
Jerry Woody
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From: James Roger Black <jrblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Are we becoming more respectable?
Date: 30 Nov 90 05:52:29 GMT
This week I picked up a copy of Timothy Good's "Above Top Secret" at my local
B. Dalton bookstore. Much to my surprise, it was shelved in the "Current
Events" section instead of under "New Age/Occult" where UFO books usually
are.
First "Out There", and now this. Maybe we're finally starting to get some
respect.
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From: Jim.Delton@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Delton)
Subject: Re: Al Seckel
Date: 28 Nov 90 22:45:00 GMT
WHat scandal did Randi have?
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From: Jim.Speiser@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: Al Seckel
Date: 28 Nov 90 23:50:00 GMT
> WHat scandal did Randi have?
He publicly accused someone of having been convicted of child molestation. It
turned out to be a false accusation.
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From: Kelly.Shropshire@f37.n114.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Kelly Shropshire)
Subject: Re: New crop circle idea?
Date: 29 Nov 90 14:10:00 GMT
I hadn't heard about the England circles. What do they mean by
"Crystalline Structure"? Do they have direct observation of this
happening "within minutes"? Are they sure the observations are of the
phenominon happening or is it perhaps that a wind combing the plants in
a different direction reveals a circle that was already there? As for
the mushroom growth, any book on mycecology should tell you. There is
one that may be out of print, called Mushrooms, Molds and Miracles
thats a general discussion of fungi geared to the layperson.
Kelly
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From: Michael.Corbin@f9.n310.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Online Ufo Database
Date: 30 Nov 90 01:24:00 GMT
> I'm in the process of setting up an online database
> consisting of the following UFO data: Animal Mutilations
> UFO Sightings
> ET crash / retrieval
> I already have the mutilation and crash online in the
> remote database and will be adding the UFO sightings to it
> soon. Anyone have data in the dbase III format (which the
> remote database uses) and would like to share it with
> others please let me know.
> Thank you..
Outstanding, Jerry! What program are you using to do this?
Perhaps you might want to circulate it among the ParaNet sysops
so we can standardize the thing.
Mike
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